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- candyisascrazyasitgets has moved to http://www.candyisaliar.blogspot.com/
- Hello Everyone, I was very lucky to have stumbled upon www.keepingthehome.com. It has sense been an incredible source of entertainment. I have not only enjoyed Candy's posts, pictures, and recipes (which by the way would turn away an Ethiopian from eating), but I have been amazed by the choreographed circus of freak show supporters. There are great tips about "What to do when CPS shows up", how to make your own detergent, why I am a dresses only, why I am a KJV bible only, I hate Catholics, and many many more delightful, yet useless, tips. In my opinion she is a very close minded, judgemental individual. She spits venom in the name of the Lord to people that do not believe completely what she does. We have found such incredible claims such as Candy use to be a model, ITU certified, her husband was inducted into the inventors hall of fame, she was asked by MENSA to join, and they do not pay their taxes. Please help me continue this struggle against evil and provide further instances of her untruths. Your comments will never be moderated, deleted, or you will never be banned. Thank you,
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OK, I am leaving the computer room and not coming back until I have done something productive.
Tia you are a HOOT!
I blame it all on the snakes. I killed one in my garden recently and that has kept me far, far away from the beds ever since.
You know, if you get bit, I've got a fantastic antidote *<}];o)
most of her menu doesn't soound too bad for me.....some of the dinners weren't exactly to my liking...OTOH I don't need to stretch a budget...and I'm sure that clouds my judgement a little...back when I did,we ate similar meals...we still do sometimes...just not everyday.
and I agree, I don't understand having potatoes with everything especially rice or pasta dishes?
What's the attraction of meezing? I find it exhausting and panic inducing. i can't have a conversation with anyone because by the time I've answered the conversation has moved on and my answer looks ridiculous ( sorry, that should be 'rediculous and vial')
I had to BRB to let my meez snooze so that I (the Real Me) could breathe.
I couldn't even LEAVE. I said 'bye ladies and mentalmen' and they all said bye back. Then I just stood in the room, with my head down snoring or something.
I could see them giggling and saying 'looks like Clare forgot to leave the room'
it was so humiliating.
I had to restart my computer in the end.
I'm afraid to go back.
Clare, I find meezing exhausting, too. I understand the ho dome needs to be there, b/c that's what Candy uses, but I don't get why Candy picked it in the first place. It is the most confusing chat interface I've ever used. It's SO hard to follow what's being said, and then you have to play musical chairs every couple of minutes b/c Suzy's bubbles are covering Sally's and Sally's head is covering Bambi's bubbles, etc... I love to chat with everyone here, but can't we go old-school and Yahoo?
I use the chat log - the bubbles are too much trouble.
Otherwise, I just find someplace to sit or levitate.
I even found the chat log confusing! For me, it wasn't keeping up w/ the bubbles, and not all the bubbles were even showing up in the log!
Amanda, you can expand the log. I have to do that, otherwise it only shows 2 or 3 sentences.
how do you expand it?
If you put your mouse arrow at the top of the gray box, it changes into a double ended arrow. When that happens, hold down the left mouse button and drag up.
Woo-hoo, our Meez can now buy Hammer pants!
"I use the chat log - the bubbles are too much trouble.
Otherwise, I just find someplace to sit or levitate."
That's me, too.
"Woo-hoo, our Meez can now buy Hammer pants!"
Oh dear lord.
The GWRBAC looked stupid since I didn't sign up with that username. What I mean is that I signed up with GWSMC (My itials of my nickname & real name put together) but it came up with GWRBAC. I wanted GWSMC. So I just changed it to GWSMC so it shows up on my comments.
I have NO WHERE to express anything online. I used to but not anymore. It's frustrating.
Well of course Pea Pod Sista Ho
Ginger, I can read just fine. I was skimming. I think that if Candy is doing that it should be stopped. That's why I left the comment directed to you.
"Well of course Pea Pod Sista Ho"
Cuz we do our Ho Meditation!
Pagan (to me)is someone who follows many paths. (Norse, Native American & Celtic for example)
GWSMC (My itials of my nickname & real name put together)
The above should read initials.
I have no prob admitting when I was clearly wrong.
I know this isn't the religous rebuttle blog, but as I sat in my heathen Catholic mass this noon, I was struck my this line in the reading:
Luke 1:41-43 (quoted from Candy's precious KJV)
41And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
42And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb.
43And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
The mother of the Lord? Why, that's not possible! I'm sure she meant, "The chosen vessel of my Lord."
BTW, someone made the comment about Montessori being Catholic & if I knew that. Yes, I have always known that. I find Montessori to be so rewarding for my youngest. I have many of Maria's books & items.
gwsmc- I am really curious. Where were you coming from when you were writing the anti-Catholic stuff on your blog? Your change of heart (apologizing for it, your feelings about Candy, etc.) just blow me away, and I would love to hear more.
Also, why do you have nowhere to express yourself online? (Sorry if I'm being too nosey.)
I have no prob admitting when I was clearly wrong.
GW I am stunned. It shows a lot of guts to do that, especially over here. I will stop calling you Fruity, unless you get an uncontrollable urge to join the Candy clones again.
I agree with whoever said you should consider blogging about your journey. All of us are on a personal journey in life, and we can all learn from each other's trials, experiences, and mistakes. There's nothing wrong with being passionate about something and then growing and realizing your passion was misdirected. What people appreciate on a blog is honesty and candidness.
Angie,
No, it's fine. I don't think you are being too nosey.
I can not say how I feel about all of the Candy & Catholic stuff online since people I know in real life read this blog at times. I can only say what I previously said earlier today. I was wrong plain & simple.
Can I just point out that for being a group of horrible, heartless, spiteful women looking to just tear apart someone, everyone seems pretty ready to forgive and move on. I'm glad there have been people that have felt safe enough to come here and say the things that have been said. It's quite telling.
I will stop calling you Fruity, unless you get an uncontrollable urge to join the Candy clones again.
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Yes, thank you for doing that.
gwsmc, thank you for being so honest and for saying that your anti-Catholicism posts may not have been the best idea. It took a great deal of courage on your part to come here and post that.
Hey Kitkat,
I have missed reading your blog. How are you feeling?
And I do have to agree with Angie. I would love to hear more of your story if you are willing to share, gwsmc.
I am feeling very fortunate that my online life and my real-life relationships don't cross over. I feel sad for someone who is worried that her real-life friends would judge her based on what she feels.
gwsmc, I have missed youreading my blog. I thought that you were mad at me or something.
gwsmc, I have to go out and water my garden before it wilts but my blog is still in the same place and you are welcome to stop by, as you have always been. Also, if you still have my email address feel free use it if you want.
kitkat- I just checked out your blog, and I liked it so much, I added it to my favorites. :)
Thanks Angie! I haven't been blogging as much as I should. I've been a bit busy......
I know that I do have a VERY bad habit of making a blog or blogging a post & then deleting one or the other & then both. Most times it's because I feel like someone I know will figure out who I am. They will bitch about what I wrote or whatever. I normally have never cared what people think but in the past if I posted something about my life & there were were certain people in my life that I need to interact with on an almost daily basis (like the hubby, my sister or in-laws for instance) I tend to be more toned down. But sometimes I simply don't care what anybody thinks. It all goes by my moods. Then I regret posting it & take it down. On certain posts of mine in the past I feel that I have revealed too much of my background. (childhood & things of that nature.) Think of flight or fight!
I know it doesn't make sense to other people but it's how I feel & has always been this way.
I feel sad for someone who is worried that her real-life friends would judge her based on what she feels.
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Not friends. For me it's really all about family.
What wordy post I just left a few minutes ago. It just came out very fast. Sorry.
Kitkat,
I will stop on by your blog. I wasn't upset with you. I'm sorry you thought that. I have been dealing with a lot of change the past year & it's all been family related. Too much change! Too much!
No prob, gwsmc. I'm just glad to see you again.
I feel sad for someone who is worried that her real-life friends would judge her based on what she feels.
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Not friends. For me it's really all about family.
Nonetheless, still a sad situation. I feel bad for you.
On KTH I noticed Candy added -Anna Matrix- under Blogs I Read. I don't know anything about the woman or blog but just scanning it I found 3 words at least Candy would find "vile and disgusting." I personally couldn't care less about the words myself. Just sometimes real confusing as to what is acceptable and isn't acceptable to that woman.
"Can I just point out that for being a group of horrible, heartless, spiteful women looking to just tear apart someone, everyone seems pretty ready to forgive and move on. I'm glad there have been people that have felt safe enough to come here and say the things that have been said. It's quite telling."
Angie. I second that emotion.
Anna Matrix is a nut
Whoa, took a couple of hours off and find out people hate Meez, GW is a friend, and there's a new blog in town... URL please? Anna Matrix?
If I Meezed in the daytime, I fear I would drive you out of your minds with the BRBs. Life is busy around here sometimes.
kitkat, do you read Dawn Eden?
Haven't posted here in a while cuz I'm not a Meez person, nor do I have a desire to be, so I couldn't follow the discussions.
Candy has put her week's menu up and it sounds like tutae. How unappealing! (What the hell is cheeseburger casserole anyway?) Doesn't seem like a whole lotta food for growing boys, either.
=I do the same with Aussies and Kiwis, they sound the same to me ( I know Kiwis think they're a bit more refined ;))=
Clare, we KNOW we are! For a start we don't say "sex" instead of "six" :-)
No, I haven't heard of Dawn Eden. Do you have a link on your blog? I am one of your lurkers. Sorry. I know I should comment and delurk over there.
I read Anna Matrix for a short period of time. I liked it, but I was very suprised to see her on Candy's blogroll. Wonders never cease.
And just in case anyone is confused, I "knew" gw from when she used to post at VTC.
I must add- i liked anna matrix in a weird kind of way - I do have to agree with the "she's a nut" comment.
I am always wary of some one who believes a war in a far-off country is proof that God is speaking to them, personally.
Dawn Eden is Catholic writer who has a book, The Thrill of the Chaste. She works and writes about abstinence, chastitiy, etc.
She has Hashimoto's too.
http://dawneden.blogspot.com/
Thanks milehi!! I was just coming back here after doing a google search on her. Didn't know that she was a hashimoto's patient. She looks great for being one if that was a recent picture of her that I saw. I look, um, not as good. But maybe it was the children that I had that made me this way..... Yeah, that's it!
Link for Anna Matrix-
http://www.xanga.com/anna
Oh. Dear. Lord.
I can hardly wait for Candy's take on the end of the world.
"All you filthee Cat-o-licks better git yourselves down to the local IFB and git SAVED because R.E.M was RIGHT."
I met her in Charleston a few months ago, after she had had surgery. That's why she has a scarf on in many pics. She's very nice IRL and email!
I have to say, as an avowed amillenialist, I'm going to have to break out hubs' Rainbow Study Bible to make heads or tails of some of it!
But I'm a closet survivalist... so thanks for one more way to waste time!
She seems pretty cool. I also appreciate her rock background. Thanks for the tip. I'll have to add her to my blogroll. I also think that I have heard her book mentioned on Relevant Radio but didn't make the connection.
ok, all of the end times/rapture stuff does make me feel lost. I grew up Lutheran and we never learned about stuff like that. My knowledge in that area is very limited, but the concept does make me chuckle.
This one goes out to the one I love
This one goes out to the one I've left behind
Wow. REM knows all about the End of the World. See the VAILED reference to Jerry B. Jenkins and Tim LaHaye? The secret connection to Kirk Cameron?
Well, I think we know what will be playing on Meez tonight!
Milehi, I found out that I was an amilenialist after reading David Currie's book. Before that I never knew that there was a name for what I was taught when I was growing up. I never heard of the word "rapture" until late high school when I had a friend who was born again. I was sheltered.
Hi Anne Marie.
i've just been taking a look at your blog, i like it. Your job sounds fun,
I have to admit I harbour a bit of a grudge against New Zealand, too many friends have taken off there. it's a bummer.
I think New Zealand must have the finest and best of Queen Charlottes midwives.
If you ever have a midwife and she's English, odds are she's a friend of mine.
i blogged about it a while back ( the post is called 'there are many types of ships'. My blogs on hiatus, long story.
Oh and you're right of course about the Aussies. Such savages, ( apart from Dora the Explorer who posts here and is very refined indeed.)
The REM "It's the End of the World as We Know It," not the REM "The One I Love."
Can anyone tell me what is with the whole Tuesday/Wednesday Sabbath Jewish Holyday thing?
I've read it many times in many places, but I'm just too darn lazy to do my own research on this one.
another one,
I know. I was trying to expand on the reference.
REM? Have I missed something? Whats that about?
By gum but you need to keep up to speed with this blog or it starts to get a little, well, discombobulating ( HT milehi)
Clare, thanks for the comment. I read your post about all the midwives going to NZ a while back. I have met a few English midwives here, now that you mention it.
I hope you start your blog up again one day, I really enjoy your writing.
Aussies are savages [present company excepted, Dora!] but they always win a lot more medals than us at the Olympics, dagnabbit!
Help! I'm in the hodome and I can't talk!
"All you filthee Cat-o-licks better git yourselves down to the local IFB and git SAVED because R.E.M was RIGHT."
LOL. On 12-31-99, one of the local radio stations played REMs "End of the World". I thought it was hysterical. One of my friends became hysterical b/c she was sure it was a sign from God.
I can't talk! Pleaes everyone who is there, forgive me!!!
ok, my first visit to hodome was a bust because I am a meezdork who can't figure out how to work the chat thingy. Sorry guys! I really tried. I think I left some type of dorky message or something instead of chatting.
Just left Candy's room. She said her husband is witnessing/saving a Catholic. Also, she said the man is running for the Senate and that Erik has been discussing "taxpayer slavery" with him.
I'm there. But, we went to the pub for dinner and along with my food a downed a few. Well, maybe more than a few. I have no explanations.
This is weird.
Woot! I just left my first ho-dome party.
For all of you who haven't been, have some drinks first. It's heathen and morally wrong, but it gets you into the swing of things.
No drama though. I always miss the good stuff.
I'm outta' here for the weekend. Keep tabs, ya'll and have a good one.
My goodness, you all have been busy! Looks like I have a lot to read and think about. GWSMC, we are glad to have you here.
I think the idea of a mole is interesting -- as some said, why do we need one (or why does Candy need one)? but ... if she was so busy as she said at a Bible Conference, she must be getting the info somewhere.
Anyway, my brain is a little muddled from lack of sleep lately, so if what I wrote makes no sense, I apologize. I'm heading out for the weekend to celebrate our anniversary, I will see you all back in blogland on Monday!
Oh, and one more thing to GWSMC: I totally know how you feel about people in real life reading what you have put online and getting really mad at you.
I introduced my SIL to a message board, and she never really seemed to get into it, as she never posted anything. Well, one day I posted a frustration about my FIL wanting us to come over that weekend, but I had been looking forward to a weekend without any family stuff and without any appointments (especially a gathering that will take 5-6 hours). She called me, totally pissed because she read that I didn't want to spend time with them. I had no idea she was still reading the board, and now I can't post anything like that because I am afraid she is still reading and will misunderstand what I am saying (again). Anyway, I think we got that straightened out, but it was a huge misunderstanding that, even though it happened 2 years ago, I still feel badly about. So, that is a long way of saying, I understand.
Synchroswimr,
Thanks.
These are my thoughts on Candy (as well as other bloggers mentioned at CIAFP&L) & her beliefs on being dresses only, children staying in church & more.
Dresses & skirts:
I don't think any woman needs to be all dresses or skirts only. I certainly don't do this. I like to be comfortable. I want to wear clothes that flatter me because then I feel good wearing them. To be honest, it's always nice when the hubby says he likes what you are wearing. But I will not dress in all dresses or skirts just because hubby wants me to if that were the case. It is not in my home.
Sunday school & youth groups:
My girls have always had the option of going to Sunday school & youth groups. Usually they decide that they wish to attend & they have a good time. I make it a point to know what is being taught in those classes. If I hear something I don't agree with I will speak up.
Makeup & hair:
I rarely wear makeup because i'm very natural. However, if the mood strikes me to wear makeup I will wear it. Same with coloring or highlighting my hair. I like doing these things! If hubby asked me to wear makeup all the time I would say no, I will wear it when I want to. The same rules apply if he asked me to stop doing things to my hair. No.
Jewelry & tats:
Sometimes I regret having to take my nose stud out due to allergies. At one time last year I regretted my tattoos. I got over that real fast. I love my tats.I got them for ME. No one else. In time I may get another across my lower back. Who knows?
Rising early:
If hubby asked me rise earlier to prepare breakfast for him before work (or anytime) I would flat out refuse. I'm sorry, but I will not get up at 5, 6 or even 7 in the morning because hubby asks me to. No way.
All of these examples boil down to this: it's my body & my life. I have a mind & I can make my own decisions. I don't need to be told by hubby what to do & how to do it.
I was independent before hubby came onto the scene. I am still that same independent woman. Marriage will not change that.
This is for some who were commenting about my oldest daughters spelling & use of grammar on her Ameriblog.
First off, she was properly taught Language Arts. She has never been a strong speller & hates to write. For years I have worked with her on English, grammar, writing & spelling but this is just how it is. She is very mechanically inclined & has a knack for animals, gardening, & all things crafty just to name a few.
I have mentioned to her that spell check is her friend when she blogs. But she is usually blogging fast to get her post out before the internet connection dies where she is staying at the moment or she is just in a huge rush & doesn't spell check it. Her life is quite busy at the moment. Her Spikes move her & her team to a different state every 6 weeks.
There are so many people out there who are poor spellers & writers.
Of course since she is my daughter I had to state this in her defense.
GW,
I don't think that helping out family members, out of love, because they ask, makes me any less of an independent woman. Just my .02.
Well, on second thought, I guess it does. In our family, we all depend on each other, and we're all in this together.
"Somebody" better be careful with the prophesying. Scripture clearly tells us what to do with false prophets.
And it ain't verbal, either.
GW,
I don't think that helping out family members, out of love, because they ask, makes me any less of an independent woman. Just my .02.
Well, on second thought, I guess it does. In our family, we all depend on each other, and we're all in this together.
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I have no qualms about doing things for my family but there are limits.
I spent years of doing everything for everyone. Never thought of me. I did nothing for myself. I will not go back to that again. In the past I had the super woman complex.
I also don't depend on anyone. I learned that lesson when I was very young. I have always been on my own. I take care of what needs to be taken care of. KWIM?
"If you are trusting in Jesus and _______ (fill in the blank - church, mass, rituals, sacraments, good works, etc.) then you are NOT saved. Jesus paid it ALL. Put all of your trust in Him and in Him alone, and He will direct your paths."
Oh my, here we go again.
gwr- you covered a lot of "Candy topics," but what do you currently think of her obsession with saving Catholics?
It really bothers me that she claims that you can KNOW if you're going to heaven. Is this a born again vs. Catholic thing?
Cajun, I know you're a IFB--do you KNOW you're going to heaven? I guess I just can't wrap my mind around KNOWING. To me, it's up there with OSAS.
And for that matter, she claims that of the people who KNOW, only 5% are right.
Can anyone out there explain this to me?
And all this talk about Rapture--I have never heard of that prior to her. Do Catholics not believe in it, or am I just a bad Catholic?
From her comments, she told highdesert:
As for careers, my oldest says he wants to be a Nascar racer, and has been reading several fiction Christian books about Nascar and racing.
There exist Christian books about Nascar racing? I'm trying to wrap my mind around that.
Oh and you're right of course about the Aussies. Such savages, ( apart from Dora the Explorer who posts here and is very refined indeed.)
England is our mother country and New Zealand our sister How could you do this to us?... Our own family calling us a nation of savages, oh how I weep.
On the upside, the exception is appreciated, although I must come to the defense of my wonderful children, family and friends who are quite lovely. My husband is American so he's off the hook.
Everyone else is fair game!
Catholics know about the rapture. They don't preach it a lot because what does it matter? We should be living for Christ and being good steward no matter if he comes tomorrow or 2000 years from now.
"And all this talk about Rapture--I have never heard of that prior to her. Do Catholics not believe in it, or am I just a bad Catholic?"
No, you're not a bad Catholic- Catholics don't believe there's going to be a rapture. I was just listening to a CD on this topic done by Catholic apologist John Martignoni. (He has a great website - www.biblechristiansociety.com ... Catholic apologetics based on scripture) Anyway, I thought this was funny- he said there are many different opinions regarding the rapture and the tribulation and when that might happen. It's hard to find two websites when you do a google on "rapture" that express the same interpretation.
Anyway, he mentioned a website put together by a "young woman," and what she had to say about the rapture. She said to ignore your preacher, ignore your friends, and read the bible for yourself to truly understand the rapture, but of course, if your interpretation differed from hers, you are absolutely wrong. Who does that sound like?
Gee, Angie, I have no idea what you're alluding to *insert innocent looking clown*
It's good to know that I didn't just miss some huge Catholic teaching, though!
Out of curiosity, I went and looked at Candy's article on the rapture, and this is how it begins:
DISCLAIMER: I don't purport to be speaking the absolute inerrant truth here. The following article is just what I've so far found from studying the Bible for over 10 years. I could very well be wrong. If you know for a fact that what I am about to state is wrong, please do correct me. However, I am not looking for Ad Hominem attacks, nor am I looking for New Bible versions. I will be looking for logical arguments, using the KJV Bible as the main point of reference.
My guess is that she got many comments from people who didn't agree and then added this to the top.
My husband is American so he's off the hook.
But I thought we Americans were considered the worst of savages!!! *<]{:oO (shocked evil clown)
that should be "stewards"
DISCLAIMER: I don't purport to be speaking the absolute inerrant truth here. The following article is just what I've so far found from studying the Bible for over 10 years. I could very well be wrong. If you know for a fact that what I am about to state is wrong, please do correct me. However, I am not looking for Ad Hominem attacks, nor am I looking for New Bible versions. I will be looking for logical arguments, using the KJV Bible as the main point of reference.
She forgot to "purport" that she has read the Bible 19 times straight through, and that that is almost 20 times.
But I thought we Americans were considered the worst of savages!!! *<]{:oO (shocked evil clown)
It seems like Americans always have to top us! (Sound of insane laughter)
Amanda, the Catholic Church doesn't have an official position on the end times, but has condemned pre and post millenialism as being inconsistent with Scripture. (If anyone want to know why, just ask and I'll write another novel in the comments).
Here's an overview of the Catholic view, as based in Scripture.
David Currie's book, Born Fundamentalist Born Again Catholic also explains it quite well.
The "millenialism" part refers to 1000 years, of Christ's kingdom. Some (JW's, for example) think that Christ literally come to earth and reign as king for exactly 1000 years. Others (including Catholics) believe that 1000 is a symbolic number and that Christ's kingdom does not necessarily mean He will be bodily present and crowned as King, sitting on a throne, etc.
The Tribulation refers to a (7 year) period of time when all he** will break loose.
The "rapture" refers to St. Paul's writings, that at the end of the world, "we will be caught up into the air". Many Evangelical/Fundamentalist denominations interpret this to mean that the "saved" will be "raptured", i.e., taken directly and bodily into heaven. Timing of this w/the tribulation differs by denomination.
Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkin's Left Behind series hinges on the notion that the "saved" will be "raptured", THEN the tribulation will begin, the antiChrist revealed, etc.
The word "rapture" does not appear in the Scriptures. The study of the end times is called eschatology. The Scofield Bible is responsible for spreading these particular beliefs, and they are relatively recent.
Although, I haven't read the tiny, handwritten Latin bibles from the 2nd century that were smuggled into the Alps. Perhaps the Rapture is in their footnotes.
*<]80p
Does the clown make up for the theology lecture?
milehi- thanks for summing that up so nicely.
but has condemned pre and post millenialism as being inconsistent with Scripture. (If anyone want to know why, just ask and I'll write another novel in the comments).
Okay, I'll bite--write me a novel *<}]:oD
Cajun, I know you're a IFB--do you KNOW you're going to heaven? I guess I just can't wrap my mind around KNOWING. To me, it's up there with OSAS.
I am not cajun but the bible does say you can KNOW you are going... I will do my best to explain, it might be a day or 2. Just got home from church picnic and preaching.... I am sun burnt but blessed..... I am also, sorta IFB in belief. Well I take the sorta back, I just asked pastor today if we are IFB because usually we just say Independent baptist.
What I should have said is that the Catholic Church recognizes the second coming of Christ in the end times, not necessarily the "left behind-rapture" interpretation. We are told that no one knows the day or time so we need to constantly be prepared. At least that is how my priest explained it to me.
OK, here's the CliffNotes version.
Background Scripture is 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
15According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
"Pre" millennialism holds that the "rapture" will happen BEFORE (pre) the Millennial reign of Christ. "Post" holds that it will happen after the Millennial reign of Christ.
Postmillennialism holds that during the Millennial reign of Christ, 1000 years long, Christianity will become more and more dominant, and the influence of Satan will be lessened and then disappear. I don't know many details (yet! ha ha) about where the "tribulation" occurs in relation to the 1000 years. Lorraine Boettner, the one who literally wrote the book on Roman Catholicism full of the fallacies still being promoted in Evangelical circles, was a staunch adherent of postmillenialism.
The Catholic Church teaches, from Scripture, that there will be TWO comings of Christ. The first one has already occurred - when He became man. The second one will occur "on the last day", at the end of the world. The dead will rise up, and then the living, there will be the Final Judgement, etc.
Premillennialism in essence teaches there will be three comings of Christ - the first when He was born in Bethlehem, again when he "raptures" the church (and despite the clear teaching of 1 Thess. 4:16-17, the dead don't seem to be raised before the "saved" are "raptured" in their teachings, but again, each church is different), and then a third time for the last day/end of the world.
(The Catholic view is that we are IN the millenium, right now; the dead and the living will be "caught up" at the end of the world.)
Sorry Matthew, Vera, Bru for hijacking your comment thread for rapture theology!
And for that matter, she claims that of the people who KNOW, only 5% are right.
Can anyone out there explain this to me?
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yeah this part get me too....you can KNOW...but only 5% who KNOW really do KNOW...of course I'm sure she KNOWS she's part of the 5% who REALLY KNOW and really ARE saved...and not part of that 95% who KNOW but really don't KNOW..and therefor AREN'T really saved....so how exactly DOES one KNOW which percent they REALLY are in?
Candy put it this way:
You KNOW that you KNOW that you KNOW.
And of course, you do good works automatically (perhaps while sleep walking?)
I do not know if you can put a percent on who knows they are going to heaven and out of those who say they know really will... KWIM, I know God says I think in Revelations that many say they know Jesus but he knows them not. The road to heaven is a narrow path. I will do my best and I am sure once cajun see's this she can also explain too what IFB generally believe.
You HAD to bring up the "automatic good works", didn't you? I think that upsets me the most. Saved people who do good works automatically do so because their saved. But atheists who do good works automatically aren't REALLY doing them automatically, they just THINK they are, but they're REALLY doing them for the approval of people and thus the devil.
Talking to her is worse than talking to a brick wall.
Amanda-- Yes I KNOW that I am going to heaven. I believe that once I accepted Jesus and changed my life for him then it was sealed. The OSAS thing is tricky. We do believe in OSAS but we also believe that people who go around murdering or doing other such things were more than likely never saved. Salvation has to be about a heart acceptance and change rather than emotions.
Now in my personal opinion the automatic good works things is a bunch of junk. Sure some people have it just as a spiritual gift like some people have other gifts from God. However not all of us are charitable people by nature. I know personally there are times when I have to drag myself out of bed and go to the soup kitchen to serve. I do not want to do it but I know that I am pleasing God by reaching out to his children. It is kind of like a parent child relationship. I know that I do not have to do it make my parent love me but I do it even though I do not want to because I want to make them proud and happy.
Oh and to address the only 5% know for sure. I think that is a made up statistic by them. IMO if you know you had a salvation experience and had some kind of change in your life that makes God apparent then you are saved. Of course everyone has their doubt now and again but I think that is a simple case of being human.
Oh and to address the only 5% know for sure. I think that is a made up statistic by them. IMO if you know you had a salvation experience and had some kind of change in your life that makes God apparent then you are saved.
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see this is the part that's difficult for me....I never had that...I was raised a Catholic from birth...I was taught from birth that Jesus died for our sins so we could have everlasting life..it's just something i've always known as far back as I can remember...so there never was any kind of 'revelation" or "aha" moment where I had a 'salvation experience" and my 'life changed"...but I believe that Jesus came to give me salvation...and that I'm 'saved" I guess( I say I guess because Catholics don't really use that term) I believe I'm going to heaven because Jesus promised it to me and everyone...and I just have to accept it.
Maggii, some Catholics might term it this way:
"Are you saved?"
"I am redeemed, and I work out my salvation in fear and trembling, with the aid of God's grace with a living faith and hope in God's mercy."
Or, you know, you could just say "yep" and keep the details to yourself!
*<]|8oD Again with the clowns. What's wrong with this woman?
Did anyone read Candy's "teen revival" post this morning?
Did anyone read Candy's "teen revival" post this morning?
Yes. I'm renowned for being too cynical for my own good, but my immediate comment was "it's a bunch of wind-up merchants." If it's genuine, it really is wonderful news, but I have my doubts that they were genuine.
Phrases such as "Jesus, forgive me of my sins, I want to live for You!" Many of them cried. "Jesus, I want You to be the Lord of my life!" "Jesus, I love you! Thank you for saving me!" "Dear God, thank you from bringing me here, now I am saved!" just do not ring true to me.
Yeah, I agree. The whole thing just seemed so weird to me...a bunch of teens getting saved in a meez room? Do you think she made it up?
Do you think she made it up?
the way is see it is that there are three possibilities:
1) It's genuine. A bunch of teens somehow found her Meez room, and her preaching (um, sorry, "teaching" since women aren't allowed to preach), was so effective that she converted "a LOT" of teens.
2) It's not genuine but she thinks it is. A bunch of teens somehow found her Meez room and decided to play the game of "let's wind up the crazy lady." Hey, it happens. Because all Candy can see are words being typed on a computer screen, she has missed the cues that are telling her it's all a big joke.
3) It's not genuine and it's not true - for some reason the whole post is made up.
I'm leaning towards (2), personally.
I don't believe a word of it. Not now, not ever.
But, she obviously has a target audience so, whatever. The great Candy strikes again and wins more souls, thus more rewards in heaven.
Such a good girl she is.
Well, darn--I'm busted. Or my kids are. They and a few friends were playing with the crazy lady's mind last night. They've seen every movie in town and stay up late on Saturday nights anyway, so they've now become Meez Masters and decided to have a bit of fun. I wonder why Candy didn't think it odd that when one left another one was waiting to come in?? I guess she just figures it's her good teachings. Anyway, I won't bother to go tell her on her site, since I know she reads here. But sorry, Candy, it was not what it seemeth last evening.
You people don't believe anything Candy does that is good. None of you have anything to contribute that is worth while. Tia rambles, Ginger is an idiot, now a new bimbo joins GWSMC. Does the hate ever stop here? Why don't you all get off your computers and do something worth while today.
Well, Mama22 you should be ashamed to tell that. I hope you punished your kids. What brats you have. A normal person would never tell people what awful kids she has to sit in a room and make fun of being saved. Don't worry Candy, they look like the fools and so does the supervising parent.
You people don't believe anything Candy does that is good. None of you have anything to contribute that is worth while.
As I said before - if it's genuine, I think it's wonderful. I'm all in favour of more people discovering the Gospel and believing in Christ.
Unfortunately, I think Candy has fallen victim to a bunch of bored teens on the computer on a Saturday night.
Maybe instead of bitching about the people here who comment, you could stop to think about what motvates a person like Candy. She is so desperate to prove something that she has no ability to discern when she is being duped.
Just like her love of Jack Chick and anything he says, she wants so desperately to be a soul winner and show herself as some soul saving Christian that she does not look beyond the surface, in any situation. Not when it comes to her "sources" of information and not when she is obviously being duped.
I think some people need to stop creating Blogger ID's just to cause trouble. There is enough trouble in the world, anonymous blog commenters really are not worth the time or energy they waste creating ID after ID just so they can play with the big boys & girls.
There Tia goes showing her stupidity. You completely lack substance and character.
I feel kinda sorry for Candy - but really, she was being extremely gullible for believing those kids were really there "getting saved." I'm surprised she couldn't see that for herself.
You people don't believe anything Candy does that is good. None of you have anything to contribute that is worth while. Tia rambles, Ginger is an idiot, now a new bimbo joins GWSMC. Does the hate ever stop here? Why don't you all get off your computers and do something worth while today
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and yet , here you were, reading and commenting thsi morning.....
Dear ILoveCandy,
"As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly." Proverbs 26:11 (KJV)
IloveCandy
First, you said
"None of you have anything to contribute that is worth while. Tia rambles, Ginger is an idiot, now a new bimbo joins GWSMC. "
Then, you said
"I hope you punished your kids. What brats you have. A normal person would never tell people what awful kids she has to sit in a room and make fun of being saved."
Finally, you said
"There Tia goes showing her stupidity. You completely lack substance and character."
Now, let me get this straight, you're accusing US of being hateful?
Take a look in the mirror. You're nothing but a coward.
You're probably a 40-something year old guy weighing in at about 300 pounds, living in his parents basement, desperately trying to think up something to do between Star Trek conventions.
I noticed how silly your name is, and the fact that there is no profile associated with it.
So, are you a fake, or just a coward? When you figure out which brand of loser you are, let us know.
i did something worthwhile today, I went to Mass and dropped off a three boxes of infant formula to Jesus Mary Joseph Crisis Center. And now I am on my computer.
oops, wrong account again, I am Sara aka catholic mom
I just read KTH. I am having a hard time believing the teen soul winning. Personally, I think 2 things: the teens were in there to play games or they were made up. I can't say for sure since I wasn't there. Who knows? As of late there are many things that are not adding up.
ILoveCandy
I'd love to explain a few things to you, but I don't want to take up too much space on this board.
You are more than welcome to send me an email at rudybugaboo@yahoo.com
You can ask me any questions you have and I'll do my best to explain everything.
I just read KTH. I am having a hard time believing the teen soul winning. Personally, I think 2 things: the teens were in there to play games or they were made up. I can't say for sure since I wasn't there. Who knows? As of late there are many things that are not adding up.
She was duped (read the posts here this morning).
GWSMC,
Why don't you take the time to read the comments before you type. Some dumbo confessed to her idiot kids doing it. What a mom.
Rudy,
You are real special.
Wow! Where is one to start. Anyone want to give the new girl a 1 min. recap?
I have been reading here for a while and I don't need a recap. I read Candy's blog, Ginger's, Kiara, and on and on. I am well informed. You all tried to attack poor Kiara and are always on Candy's case and the other Amanda. You are a gang of fools is what you are.
I love Candy,
I'm the new girl. I request the recap for myself. I've only ever found one other blog with this much activity.
Abigail,
I apologize. Don't let them take you down the evil path.
Tell me about the evil path.
Well, actually even I wouldn't ordinarily condone pulling one over on Candy, and not many people can out-mean me. But, she's hurt a couple of people I care about lately, and I figure paybacks are rough sometimes....but she'll survive and go on to save many more, I'm sure. The kids were not all mine, and are late teens/early 20s, so they're a bit hard to punish. I suppose I could have slapped their little hands and sent them to bed without their evening potato, but I didn't feel like it. I thought perhaps Candy/Mole (Kaira???) would be in here bright and early to see if anyone had noticed the "I saved the world last night" post from Ms. Brauer, so I just thought it prudent to let C/M/K know that it wasn't quite what they thought. Anyway, I don't post here often, because frankly I don't give a rip what Candy does, but this time I thought she was due a little payback. And thank you, ILC, I am a pretty good parent--glad you noticed!
Does anyone else think it is weird that so many have posted here that have no blogs up or profiles? It is like there is a multiple personality disorder going around.
Abigail, you must be new. Welcome!
My mmez is Catholicmom and I am feeling super friendly today. Sweeping the home Meez room is a riot. Candy's room is OK until she shows UP....RUTROW. Candy says that her bible says that if you aren't saved you are going to hell. Per Candy and her bible, my dear Grandmother Dailey is in hell because she was not saved.
Sara/ AKA Catholic Mom
dropped off a three boxes of infant formula to Jesus Mary Joseph Crisis Center.
I hope you did that automatically, cuz otherwise it doesn't count, Sara.
Does anyone else have a Strangeloves song playing in their head when they read "ilovecandy"?
i .... love candy! Candy in the hot sunshine, Candy in the morning time... I..want Candy!
*<]80D @--
Clown with lollipop - he LUVVS candy.
Oooh, just thought of a new theme song for CAE/CAW/CAD/ILC whatevah -
Theme song for Candy Cowards
Sara,
So, meez - I'll have to think about that. Candy is pretty bold to tell you your grandma is in hell. That's scary.
There seems to be quite a bit going on here. You talk about crazy clowns, meez, the end of the world, a mole, burning in hell, evil paths and more. And that is just on this page. I need a drink.
I don't think it is weird simply not having a blog or a profile. I didn't for quite some time. Not everyone is interested in blogging and a lot of people only have ID's so they can comment. And, a lot of people are uncomfortable revealing anything about themselves in a profile.
What I do find weird, however, are the people who create new ID's simply to harass and play games. Seeing a brand new profile with hit & run posts meant only to offend and be nasty is where it gets ridiculous. Especially when someone creates and deletes ID's as often as I wipe myself.
What I find the most interesting of all of it is that the person doing this the most is the one who is most critical of everyone who posts here and everything that is said.
That pot is very, very black and starting to char-broil in comparison to this kettle.
No, I did it because I know there are single moms/families who are stuggling with the high cost of groceries. I wonder if they sell "saving your soul" memberships?
mama22, I don't think you've posted a lot here; I don't remember your login.
I think what your kids and their friends did, and what you apparently condoned, was despicable. I hate cruelty, and I hate deceptive cruelty that makes someone believe a happy lie and then lets the person down with a crash. Did that really meet your standard of religious or moral values? It is way over the line for mine.
I'm surprised if it didn't occur to her that someone might be playing games, since mostly kids drop in and are rude and hostile. Maybe it did but she decided to go with the appearance of it. Does it make you pleased to have caused someone pain by deception?
Although I don't like the name of this site, a lot of the people posting here seem like good people, and I'd like to think they also would agree that this was wrong by their values. Ugh, I hate this whole thing. I think Candy is tough enough not to be bothered by it very much, but I've seen or heard of school kids gamed in this way (including one of mine years ago) and I find it so offensive.
If you want to argue with Candy, at least do it to her face.
Abigail, I too am feeling generous (gosh, is that automatic?), so I'll try to give you the cliff notes version:
There seems to be quite a bit going on here. You talk about crazy clowns, meez, the end of the world, a mole, burning in hell, evil paths and more. And that is just on this page. I need a drink.
Crazy clowns: that's just us and our emotocons *<}]:o) Milehi came up with them, as an alternative to Candy's :-?
Meez: This stupid chat room that Candy found. It's awful; very difficult to follow along with. You kinda have to see it to believe it. Candy has one, and so does SweepingTheHome (her's is the Ho Dome)
End of the Word: Just referring to Candy's latest posts.
Evil paths, etc...: Good works are only good if you're saved, and if you're saved, you do good automatically. If you have to work at being good, you're not really saved and thus doomed to hell, along with all Catholics (according to the Catechism of Candy)
Really, to understand everything, you'd have to read ALL the comments, and no one expects that of you. Jump right in!
I'm all for exposing Candy's arrogance and ignorance through sarcasm and humor, however I believe what those kids did last night just went too far. You have to draw the line somewhere.
On the other hand, I'm just astounded that Candy didn't pick up on it being a joke (albeit a bad one).
"Faking" salvations for entertainment is wrong. It is also spritually dangerous to shout out things like "Save me Jesus" in a mocking or fake way. Just MHO.
We certainly shouldn't encourage her Meez salvations!
On the other hand, it's hard to know if the "the salvations were fake" post is, in itself, real. So, you know, I'm just going to ignore it and keep my eyes on the goal of this blog. Throwing light on Candy's falsities, lies, and obfuscations.
I do wonder who she's talking about, the friends who aren't friends and went off to bash Candy?
Meez seemed quiet last night to me. I had a nice talk with Ginger and Kaira, but we talked about Kitchen Aid mixers and used car gas mileage.
Cause I'm boring like that.
Meez is an awful chat interface, but I love the Barbie aspect with the clothes!
I've got pigtails now!
We've done Madonna and MJ, can we have Cyndi Lauper next?
we talked about Kitchen Aid mixers and used car gas mileage.
Cause I'm boring like that.
I missed talk about KA Mixers?! I knew I should have stayed home instead of going out and interacting with real people, LOL.
Meez is an awful chat interface, but I love the Barbie aspect with the clothes!
I've got pigtails now!
I do have to admit I like the clothes. I am now on a quest to get myself pigtails.
I'm all for calling her out on her lies and ugliness, and I hate that she thinks someone's soul can be "won" on a kid's internet playroom. But I also think that deliberately yanking her chain like that is not fair. I felt sorry for her when I read her post, because it was pretty obvious that she was being spoofed. I wish there hadn't been any bragging about it here.
"Faking" salvations for entertainment is wrong. It is also spritually dangerous to shout out things like "Save me Jesus" in a mocking or fake way. Just MHO.
And MHO, as well. Much as I think Candy is wrong in many things (her hatred of Catholics being the biggie), I think this particular act, if it was faked, was cruel, and extremely foolish on the part of the fakers - God is not mocked.
I wish there hadn't been any bragging about it here.
While I do agree that what was done was wrong, I didn't get the impression that she was bragging. Just that she thought that Candy ought to know that things weren't as they seemed.
Although, one would also assume that in order for these boys to have found out about it in the first place, she would have had to tell them. (But what do I know? Maybe kombucha is the new Ecstasy.)
Amanda,
We determined that KA Professional series were worthless, and Bosch far superior, as it can mix 6 loaves of bread at once.
My pigtails are "Pippi".
And last night my girls got onto me for being in the same dress and not changing.
I'm going to have to buy them Barbies so they'll leave my Meezle alone!
As far as I know, no Meez rooms are private. I've been in Candy's room before when strange people have come in and tried to hit on the Meezles.
(And can I just say how very, very pathetic it is to hit on a chat room avatar and STILL get turned down?)
When we were dating, Ryan got me a KA. I begged for it, so I can certainly not change my mind now, but I secretly covet a Bosch. At the very least, I wish he had gotten me the larger size bowl. (But SHHHHH! He would be SO upset if he knew. And he just let me spend *cough*$300*cough* to get my sewing machine fixed, so I don't want to risk upsetting him!)
He got you one while you were dating????
I had to wait until we were married for 11 years LOL! And I think hubs only bought me one so I'd make kolaches more often.
Good thing he married a Slav.
Yeah, we were still dating, but I think we'd been together 4 years. So it wasn't like it was my first Christmas present, by any means.
My husband told me last night that he would buy me a Bosch if I would make poviticia. I am SO not Croatian, like all his old girlfriends were. His brother married a good Croatian girl, and he gets poviticia all the time. I'm not even German, so no strudel, though I can make a good fakie one, with store-bought phyllo.
Maybe kolaches would be a good compromise. Not so much rolling....
I have NO idea what you're all talking about, but I'm sure it's all EVEN yummier than Mandys Salmon recipe.
I've been away. I just read this:
"Before I hardly knew what was going on, my Meez room was full of.... TEENS! And, it gets stranger, and even more wonderful. One of them asked how to get saved, then several more showed their interest as well. Suddenly, I'm standing there, literally with several teens standing or sitting all around me, and I'm giving the Gospel message! Several of them accepted Christ as their Saviour, committed their lives to Him and are committed to live for Him, regardless of what the world thinks of them.
I thought WOW! Several souls saved at once! and they are TEENS! Praise God!
So, I felt led to put on This 1 hour sermon by Paul Washer. Did the teens get impatient and rude? NO! They sat down and listened. YES! And several more got born again during that sermon! Wow! By this point, I stopped keeping count of the salvations. Some teens had to leave, to go to bed, and other teens instantly came into my room, and took their place, then, MANY OF THOSE TEENS GOT SAVED AS WELL!
Folks, I was right in the middle of a true Teen Revival! I don't know how many teens I told the Gospel to, or how many times I retold it to the new ones coming in, but it was a LOT, and each and every time, more of them got saved!"
I cringed my way through it. It was like watching that Jewish American show 'Curb your enthusiam', only it's not meant to be a comedy . How on earth can it be possible for her not to realise that this is a massive wind up?
It's torture to read her getting all excited about it.
Has the poor girl got NOBODY in real life who can take her to one side?
She's making a class A eejit out of herself. FOR THE LOVE OF SWEET CHARITY! If there's a sensible person out there IRL who's thinking of befriending Candy, THIS IS YOUR MOMENT, don't delay. I don't know how much longer I can take it.
I have to lie down.
Oh no. I've just read the comments.
People are weeping tears of joy over the mass conversion of the meez teens.
This is desperate.
I cannot read the comments; for some reason every time I click on the comments link my computer freezes up and I have to start task manager. It's annoying.
For you sweeping:
Wow, Candy, thats wonderful. You certainly have a gift- may you help with many more salvations!
Eva | 08.17.08 - 5:40 am | #
Gravatar Truly awesome!
Amanda | Homepage | 08.17.08 - 7:11 am | #
Gravatar Praise the Lord! I have tears in my eyes! The lord is so faithful and his plan was for you to be there that moment with all of them. *heartbeat*
God is so AWESOME!!
MichelleC | Homepage | 08.17.08 - 8:21 am | #
Gravatar Oh Candy..How Wonderful.
I have Tears in my eyes from reading this. So Beautiful!!!
What an Honour.
Keep spreading the Gospel Candy. There are so many people who need to hear it.
Stay Strong. All that Matters is Our Lord, no-one else.
'Sticks and stones may break your bones' comes to mind, but 'Names etc.. will never Hurt You'...
Blessings and Love to you and your Family Candy.
Praise Be to our Lord!
Rose | Homepage | 08.17.08 - 8:50 am | #
Gravatar Hallelujah!
Brookie | 08.17.08 - 9:35 am | #
Gravatar Hi Candy,
I am sure hoping that you are not referring to me "speaking cryptically" because I was not doing that. I went to my room. I have meez friends that don't know you as well. I certainly didn't receive a rush on my room by any means. I've never participated in a Candy Bash either.
Anyhow, as you know I popped back into your room before turning in for the night and that was an interesting site. All those teens did seem to be incredibly polite, calm and interested in the gospel message. I'd have liked to stay and witness more of that but I had to get some sleep.
Kaira | Homepage | 08.17.08 - 10:52 am | #
Gravatar Candi, This is wonderful news how God used you in a powerful way. May God bless you richly.
mlpinky | Homepage | 08.17.08 - 11:35 am | #
Gravatar hey candy way to go. Got job in the spirit.
Curtis | 08.17.08 - 1:17 pm | #
Gravatar Candy,
I am in tears after reading this! God has given you an incredible gift. What a beautiful story!! Thanks so much for sharing this with us!! God bless you!
Love and blessings,
Toni
mom211911 | Homepage | 08.17.08 - 1:40 pm | #
Gravatar Hey Candy!
All I can say PRAISE JESUS!!!
Sorry I didn't get back to your room last might to battle with you against the enemy and witness these teens receiving Christ. It is so awesome to see how God is using you to bring these lost souls to Him. May this be only the beginning of many many more souls won for the Lord. Keep it up sister!
Have a supercharged blessed week!
Kim | 08.17.08 - 1:58 pm | #
Gravatar As I have been thinking about last night's miracles, I think all of my "friends" leaving together was part of God's plan, because within 10 minutes my was room was FULL of teens!
Later in the night, we did get one of my blog readers (a friend) who stayed with us for the rest of the time, and praised God with us. It was nice not to be the only adult in there, I must admit.
Candy | Homepage | 08.17.08 - 2:05 pm | #
Gravatar REJOICING!!
Swylv | Homepage | 08.17.08 - 2:21 pm | #
Gravatar What an amazing thing! I was going to go in your room last night, but I saw zero people - later I saw 1 person. I wound up watching Paul washer sermons on my own, listening to praise music, and my KJV audio bible. Guess it was God's plan.
Blessing to you and your beautiful family - and blessings to those teens!
Anne T. | 08.17.08 - 2:51 pm | #
Even if do pretend that the salvations were real, I think crying over them is a bit over the top. But I'm a callous Catholic. What do I know?
So that last deleted comment....b/c I subscribe, it was emailed to me (before it was deleted). It had a link, to a rant about Kaira....why was it deleted? (And why was it posted in the first place?)
Oh for heavens sake. I've got tears in my eyes from reading those comments...
Thanks for posting them Clare.
So I sent kind of a warning to Candy - I couldn't make myself type in the stark truth. But maybe she'll figure it out and if not I'll send an update later about mom22's post here. It just makes me SICK to make someone feel bad like that. So a big F U to mom22 and her kids for that.
(And yeah, why do I even post on these sites, what kind of a person am I etc.)
Amanda. Hmmm. "Curiouser and curiouser"
*strokes chin*
It makes me want to cry, and throw things.
Hello Bru. I'm sorry you felt a bit 'got at' recently.
Perhaps if you're not TOO hacked off with us, you might say 'hi' and put a new commenting post up?
I don't have a mouse on this laptop and I'm scrolling up and down with this dreadful touchpad.
Wow...good for you Highdesert. Glad I am not the only one who thinks is it is horrible. Lets not forget about the mom who let your kids get online and harass another teen who then took her life. I believe that mom is facing charges now....finally.
Milehigh...my blog name is ilovecandysblog. It cuts it short and I would prefer you address me with my full name.
Wow...good for you Highdesert. Glad I am not the only one who thinks is it is horrible.
Aside from the fact that we are all horrible heathen ho's, I really didn't see ANYONE here who was supportive of what those kids did. I think most of us feel they crossed the line.
"Milehigh...my blog name is ilovecandysblog. It cuts it short and I would prefer you address me with my full name."
LOL
No idea why that strikes me as hysterical, but it does.
highdesert. I can see that this issue really resonates with you. Although it IS a bit of a low trick it's the mocking God element that would trouble me more than the mocking of Candy. But that's just me.
From my observation Candy is remarkably robust and insensitive.
I wouldn't imagine that this would put even the merest dent in her world class, super confidence.
You think it is funny because you are an evil doer.
I can see how the joke would have been fun to expose the naivety of Candy, and true she was naive to believe the conversions.
And, with all of my beefs with her, I still think it was cruel.
I like a good joke as much as the next person, but this one just hit me the wrong way.
(Sorry, I deleted above by accident.)
Workinguptozero finds your request to be addressed by your full name funny...BECAUSE she is an evildoer??
Is that what you are saying?
Just checking that I am understanding you.
"You think it is funny because you are an evil doer."
That must be it, couldn't possibly be because it sounds so pompous and silly to insist that someone use your full blogger-name, especially when you don't use the full name of the person you are addressing.
clare, yeah, I'm ultra-sensitive to this kind of pulling the rug out from someone's pleasure. Life is hard enough.
And as I said, this kind of trick was played on one of my kids who did not have a whole lot of self confidence. It hurts to remember that incident. I think Candy has a lot more self-confidence, but it still upsets me.
Now Candy writes:
UPDATE: I am in email contact with some of the teens. Many of them really are hungering for the Word of God. I'm so glad I have the opportunity to study the Word of God with them.
What's up with that?
Hey sweepingthehome; I broke down and created an account to post here and at your site:)
Anyhoo.. I don't believe she is in any sort of contact with any teens.. those teens were all messing with her and she has become aware of that and this newest post is just to "save face"
Were those teens wrong? Yes, you don't do that and it crossed the line but Candy was wrong too, you don't try to convert anyone else's kids under the age of 18.. I wouldn' try to convert or "save" Candy's kids under 18 and it is none of her business to mess with my kids either.. as long as they are under age.. I am in charge of what church they go to etc. So.. both sides were wrong imo.
"UPDATE: I am in email contact with some of the teens. Many of them really are hungering for the Word of God. I'm so glad I have the opportunity to study the Word of God with them."
*sob* make it stop. Somebody. I can't bear it.
It might mean that some of the teens who popped into her room were not in mom22's teen group, and really did take in the message. It's true that teens do pop into the room when it's almost full. What if some random teen popped into the room, was motivated by the apparent conviction of the mom22 kids, and genuinely did take the message seriously? I suppose it's possible.
Or else mom22's kids and friends are still pursuing the deception.
(Or maybe mom22's report wasn't even real. But it did make sense of the situation.)
(and who knows - if she's actually in contact with mom22's teens & friends, maybe they'll get convicted despite themselves in the course of their deception if they keep on having the conversation. At least that idea might put a slightly hopeful spin on the situation from Candy's viewpoint. Probably unlikely, but who knows.)
Kamz - good point. Nobody should be going around preaching religion to somebody else's kids, without the parents' permission.
You know, I do think it was pretty tacky what the kids did. But, at the same time, any other time Candy has won a soul in her meez room, everyone has doubted its validity and discussed how someone must have been pulling one over on her. So, considering it's pretty much what everyone has thought of her on line salvations to begin with, why is it so much worse now that it has been confirmed? momma22 said that one, they were not all her kids and two, most of them are over 18. How many parents really have control over their adult children? We call them kids when they're 18, but they're not. They're responsible for their own actions. She has said she didn't condemn the actions, but what could she do? Make adults who already have such little human connection to the meez on the computer apologize to the meez character, or to Candy or to who?
I don't think it was in any way a wise thing for them to do, but a little perspective is probably a good thing in this case.
I have been thoroughly convinced that all of the supposed salvations Candy has facilitated through meez have been fakes; someone heckling her, someone strolling along and playing with the crazy lady, whatever. Now, there is just verification that that is exactly what happened. Is it worse simply because its been verified? Many here have said the same thing and had the same suspicions in past meez salvation discussions.
I don't condone what they did. But, that's all I really think about it. It wasn't exactly superior moral behavior. But, it wasn't exactly the worst thing they could do and it isn't worthy of stoning (not that they're getting stoned, but, well...you know).
And, for the record, I totally believe that Candy's update about being in email contact with the teens is for her sake and her sake alone. She knows she was duped but won't allow her fans to see that she is not only human like everyone else, but a somewhat gullible human at that. So, she keeps her scenario going.
Tell me, how is that any worse than what the "kids" did to her? She is pulling one over on her readers every single day.
Oh Highdesert please. You can't be serious. Cybersalvation? In Candys meeze room?
Have you 'meezed'? I have. It's so choppy and disjointed, it's impossible to pursue a meaningful conversation in that context, speech bubbles and making your meez jump around and go 'yay' and levitate and what not.
This is absurd. I really don't want to be unkind, but sometimes visiting Candys site makes me feel bad in the way that some people with a conscience would have felt bad visiting Bedlam for their amusement.
much as I enjoy the way the internet has given us a 'window on the world' I also worry sometimes about it's power to reinforce delusional thinking in people who are already delusional enough.
Sometimes it's kinder not to collude with this sort of fabulation.
highdesert- I understand that you are taking what those kids did personally, but have you ever sent a big F-U to Candy for telling people that their dear relatives are rotting in hell for being Catholic? I'm not condoning what the kids did, but kids don't think things through before jumping in sometimes. Candy is an adult who constantly crosses the line between having a conversation and being hurtful and condemning. Just my .02.
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Highdesert. I was also surprised by the strength of your response here. The 'big FU' comment really made me do a double take.
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